Comments on: Thanks for the revelations http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/ Random thoughts on a not-so-random life. Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:46:39 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: thoughtracer http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-58 thoughtracer Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:35:18 +0000 http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-58 Yes. I am glad to hear all of you experience the same thing. Goddamned flu. What's that they say? First, do no harm? Yeah, um, OK. Yes. I am glad to hear all of you experience the same thing. Goddamned flu. What’s that they say? First, do no harm? Yeah, um, OK.

]]> By: stefanie http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-56 stefanie Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:58:21 +0000 http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-56 Hi, new kid on the block here too. Pretty cool about the NYTimes article! Hi, new kid on the block here too. Pretty cool about the NYTimes article!

]]> By: Orodemniades http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-55 Orodemniades Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:21:18 +0000 http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-55 Mr Oro never gets the flu either - unless he gets one of those damned shots. The last one he got made him so ill that within 8 hours of the injection he was in bed with a high fever, sweating, shaking, freezing, and having borderline hallucinations. Crazy. Mr Oro never gets the flu either – unless he gets one of those damned shots. The last one he got made him so ill that within 8 hours of the injection he was in bed with a high fever, sweating, shaking, freezing, and having borderline hallucinations. Crazy.

]]> By: meowser http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-54 meowser Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:01:26 +0000 http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-54 Type 2 diabetes in people younger than 20 is so rare even the American Diabetes Association does not keep statistics on it. The ADA estimates that the total number of all diabetes cases in youth < 20 is 0.22% of the total population -- yes, that's less than one-quarter of 1%. At least half to three-quarters of those cases are believed to be type 1. I can tell you this: Type 2 diabetes was never, ever tested for in kids at all when I was one (1963-1982). In fact, it was hardly even tested for in <em>adults</em> until about 15 or 20 years ago unless you were already having symptoms like gangrene or losing consciousness. Had I grown up today in the body I had then, gaining weight as easily as I did, they surely would be testing me. Because that's all it takes now, a little puppy fat, and they're whipping out the fasting blood sugars. Which can, of course, be completely misleading on kids who are still having growth spurts, but hey, there's pills to be sold, they can't just flush them all down the rivers. Oh, and also, remember that 10 years ago they lowered the FBS standards for diabetes from 140 to 126, and also introduced a "prediabetic" category for FBS 100 to 120. So we really don't have an apples-to-apples data comparison of "then" to "now" to work with. There's really no hard data showing an uptick in fasting blood sugars, only more people being diagnosed because of a lowered threshold of diagnosis. Type 2 diabetes in people younger than 20 is so rare even the American Diabetes Association does not keep statistics on it. The ADA estimates that the total number of all diabetes cases in youth < 20 is 0.22% of the total population — yes, that’s less than one-quarter of 1%. At least half to three-quarters of those cases are believed to be type 1.

I can tell you this: Type 2 diabetes was never, ever tested for in kids at all when I was one (1963-1982). In fact, it was hardly even tested for in adults until about 15 or 20 years ago unless you were already having symptoms like gangrene or losing consciousness. Had I grown up today in the body I had then, gaining weight as easily as I did, they surely would be testing me. Because that’s all it takes now, a little puppy fat, and they’re whipping out the fasting blood sugars. Which can, of course, be completely misleading on kids who are still having growth spurts, but hey, there’s pills to be sold, they can’t just flush them all down the rivers.

Oh, and also, remember that 10 years ago they lowered the FBS standards for diabetes from 140 to 126, and also introduced a “prediabetic” category for FBS 100 to 120. So we really don’t have an apples-to-apples data comparison of “then” to “now” to work with. There’s really no hard data showing an uptick in fasting blood sugars, only more people being diagnosed because of a lowered threshold of diagnosis.

]]> By: Bekbek http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-53 Bekbek Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:35:33 +0000 http://thoughtracer.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/thanks-for-the-revelations/#comment-53 This is exactly why I don't trust the medical industry! This is so exactly what I suspected when they were ranting about the flu shot. And why I roll my eyes at the !!!EPIDEMIC!!!s they periodically roll out. This is exactly why I don’t trust the medical industry! This is so exactly what I suspected when they were ranting about the flu shot. And why I roll my eyes at the !!!EPIDEMIC!!!s they periodically roll out.

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